Call her unpleasant.
A social media user who claims to have run for the event director position at Unwell a year and a half ago took to TikTok on Wednesday to share his experience of what it was like to interview for Alex Cooper and Matt Kaplan’s production company.
Courtney Babin (who goes by @cbabsssss on social media platforms) claims that things escalated during her final interview for the role, which she claims was a solo chat with Kaplan.
“It got weird right away when I went to see him. He looked me up and down, my hair, my makeup, my clothes. I was wearing a blazer and pants and it was weird,” she claimed to her followers.
Once inside Kaplan’s “huge office,” Babin claimed that Kaplan’s sofa was “very uncomfortable” and low to the ground, and that the businesswoman chose to sit in a chair that was “higher” than her.
“There’s a power imbalance,” Babin continued. “And he wouldn’t make eye contact with me. He was just looking straight in front of me, fixing his hair.”
And she likened their alleged conversation to a series of interrogations on a “first date.”
Mr. Kaplan, who is responsible for the company’s day-to-day operations, asked Ms. Babin about her upbringing, her college experience, and her parents, but she reportedly did not respond favorably.
“I refrained from answering questions like what my parents do for a living and how it relates to this interview,” she recalled. “That’s highly inappropriate. Why does it matter?”
Babin claimed that this led the producer to “blame” everyone at the company except his wife, Cooper.
“He said, ‘Everyone who works here is a stupid nepo baby. They’re rich. They don’t care. They don’t have a work ethic. They’re lazy,'” she alleged of their conversation. “He didn’t seem impressed by the whole situation. It was just unpleasant. It was awful.”
The TikTok user claimed the interaction was “very unpleasant and very upsetting” and wondered if Cooper knew how Kaplan acted at work.
“People say, ‘Don’t meet your idol,’ because the fact that this woman that I’ve admired for so long has a man sitting behind her who is so judgmental and so mean… just speaks poorly of what she’s built. It was the most inappropriate situation I’ve ever been in,” Babin claimed, claiming that Kaplan even tried to hug her at the end of the interview.
After she didn’t get the job, she allegedly tried to contact human resources to find out what happened, but was ignored.
In the TikTok video, Babin revealed that she had never met Cooper (who primarily focuses on her podcast, “Call Her Daddy”), so her only negative interactions were allegedly with Kaplan.
Babin later criticized Kaplan on her Instagram Story, calling Kaplan the “antithesis” of the brand that Cooper has built around “empowering women,” “safe workplaces” and “calling out harmful behavior.”
“You can’t preach one thing publicly and then turn around and say privately, ‘It’s not my problem,'” she added.
“It’s a lack of awareness. If your whole message is to protect women and create a better environment, but the energy around you doesn’t reflect that… what are we doing? Ironic!”
Page Six has reached out to representatives for Kaplan and Cooper for comment.
Mr. Babin’s story came days after Mr. Kaplan was accused in a new report of disparaging and threatening the careers of Unwell Network staffers.
Insiders close to the company claimed in a shocking Bloomberg report on Monday that there are ongoing issues between Unwell’s CEO and employees.
Kaplan “has a reputation for frequently yelling at staff,” the report alleges.
In 2025, Mr Cooper told Marie Claire that his hope as CEO was to create a “very positive and safe” environment for staff, and that the door was “always open”.
Cooper and Kaplan, who tied the knot in Mexico in 2024, first met on a Zoom call in 2020 before getting engaged in 2023.
In the same year, the couple co-founded Trend Media Company and Unwell Network.
The “Call Her Daddy” host has been making headlines in recent weeks after publicly slamming Alix Earle during their feud. Earlier this month, the media mogul urged TikTok influencers to openly air all their issues instead of hiding behind “passive-aggressive” social media.
Earl has yet to respond to Cooper’s post, other than to write, “Okay, that’s it!!” in the comments section.
